Monday, 17 November 2008

WEEK 6: HOSTED BY JAMIE CREWE

An online conversation between students of the BA Fine Art and MArt courses at Sheffield Hallam University.

Begun at 9.00PM on Monday November 17th.

Hosted by Jamie Crewe, in Taylor Le Fín's absence, following on from WEEK 1 with a discussion of Richard Linklater's film Before Sunset, with reference to Victor Burgin's Nietzsche's Paris and the song Quit While I'm Ahead by Lonzine Cannon.

In attendance: Luke Chapman, Jamie Crewe, Luke Dilnot, Jonny Fox, Zuzana Godalova, Matthew Hand, Luiza Holub, Natalie Mortimer

TRANSCRIPT:
http://www.box.net/shared/xp525lhi88

POSTSCRIPT:

Sarah Smizz

I haven't discovered what love feels like yet. I know the love of a mother and a love ina friendship form, but the love of a man is something that I have yet to discover. And yet, the main reason for me to announce this to gmail and contacts is the fact that i personally would risk losing something in the discovery that my chance of love, a point 2 prove, the meeting of a once stranger and disappointment is just all too good to pass off.
It's the same type of situation, where you haven't seen a close friend in like a year or two... you used to be able to keep the best conversations going. To the point of finishing each others sentences. and then, with this moment of meeting with a year or 2 gap - you start to question yourself and what you had.
Have I changed? Have they changed? What are we going to talk about now. I'm obsessed with the idea of smizz as an artist, and the ideal of sculpturing, nurturing of a future into something positive for the next generation.... they work full time at ASDA Cafe scrapping chicken fat off trays. We no longer have a relation of which we first met, like school and the people who surrounded us. It's just us. what are we going to talk about? Is it what are we going to talk about or is it the acceptance of the fact that we both have changed. Outgrown? Outdated. Unwanted. Uncanny.
before sunset i don't think its necessarily about the stranger, or even love. It's about missing. Sunset in itself is a melochanic element. and in desire you project upon the stranger what is indeed missing from yourself.
And thats why we make a sequal, and thats why we take risks - or becoming needy. You project what you want, and read into signals and thoughts for hope.
For me personally, im very emotionally detached when in a relationship - as result i feel like i'll probably die alone lol. But it doesn't faze me. As long as I have my friends and my books and a copy of before sunrise and before sunset on dvd and that. And New York. It's all goooooood in the hoooood!



RESOURCES:










http://www.christineburgin.com/burgin_victor/nietzsche/index.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1248/is_/ai_76333004

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